Boycott Israel? Support Palestinians Instead


Mosque in Jaffa

Written by Ali Dahmash

The recent ads that appeared in the local papers to visit the Holly Sites in Jerusalem have made the committee of anti–normalization in Jordan concerned, calling for boycotting such visits. The committee announced that visiting religious sites under the spears of the occupation is a true normalization with Israel. The Travel agent defended by saying that this is art of Religious Tourism.

I do not agree with the anti–normalization committee. I have traveled to Israel & the West Bank with this travel agent. And if it wasn’t for them, I would have never dreamed of visiting my country and my home town. My mom would have never visited the place she left 61 years ago. The most important thing about this trip, and I do salute the Jordanian Travel agent for doing that, is that our accommodation(hotel) , the restaurants we ate at, the tour guide, the road rest stops we used, were all owned by Arabs (either Israeli Arab or from the West Bank). We have not spent a penny on the Israelis. In this trip we rented a Palestinian cab driver who took us around the country, we ate in an Arab restaurant in Jaffa, we bought stuff from merchants in Ramallah & Arab East Jerusalem. We might have been a small group of 22 people but imagine our impact if we were able to visit in hundreds and maybe thousands. Most of the group considered this to be a religious trip as well, since they spent a few days in the Holy Sites praying.

Palestinians in the occupied territories feel abandoned by the Arabs and are actually alone in facing the Israeli military occupation. And despite the rough economical situation, the check points and the embargo on the Palestinians, we were able to spend our money on them and providing support for their businesses and economy. In the weekends, Arab Israelis send buses loaded with people who do their shopping and business from Palestinians in the West Bank, a successful attempt of survival and resisting this occupation.

Let’s put an end with spending our money & time on empty political banners and slogans that will not help any Palestinian family. As a matter of fact I urge every Jordanian and Arab who holds a foreign passport to travel to Palestine and give support with all possible means, and save the visit to Sharm El Shiekh & Turkey during the holidays for next season.




  • George

    Thanks for the article, i was convincing some friends to come visit Jerusalem, most of them said applying for a visa is normalization/recognition of Israel.
    We also need to realize that none of our boycotts ever worked …

  • George

    Thanks for the article, i was convincing some friends to come visit Jerusalem, most of them said applying for a visa is normalization/recognition of Israel.
    We also need to realize that none of our boycotts ever worked …

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com/ Ali Dahmash

    Thanks George for your comment. You are absolutely right, we shouldn’t leave you guys alone facing this brutal occupation while we waste our time crying out useless condomnations and slogans. I used to call for the closure of the Israeli embassy in Amman but without it I owuld have never visited my country. Unfortunatley Arabs are so consumed with these worthless calls for boycotting, what have they done so far nothing! Most Arab countries benefit from this propaganda.
    Ali

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com Ali Dahmash

    Thanks George for your comment. You are absolutely right, we shouldn’t leave you guys alone facing this brutal occupation while we waste our time crying out useless condomnations and slogans. I used to call for the closure of the Israeli embassy in Amman but without it I owuld have never visited my country. Unfortunatley Arabs are so consumed with these worthless calls for boycotting, what have they done so far nothing! Most Arab countries benefit from this propaganda.
    Ali

  • http://israelimom.org/ israelimom

    See, if I were to visit Jordan, I would make a point of spending money with local businesses. Arab businesses (are there any Jews in Jordan, I don’t know, and certainly would not seek them out). It’s about showing people that peace has benefits. If Israeli Jewish business people were to see that tourism from Arab countries is good business, it may help achieve the same goal.

    I can see why you’d want to boycott the settlers’ businesses, but I think you’re making a mistake insisting on separation between Arabs and Jews. In fact, imagine if someone was to brag that he came to Israel for a visit and made a point of not using any services by Arabs? he’s only go to Jewish-owned hotels and restaurants, for example. Wouldn’t you call that racism?

  • http://israelimom.org israelimom

    See, if I were to visit Jordan, I would make a point of spending money with local businesses. Arab businesses (are there any Jews in Jordan, I don’t know, and certainly would not seek them out). It’s about showing people that peace has benefits. If Israeli Jewish business people were to see that tourism from Arab countries is good business, it may help achieve the same goal.

    I can see why you’d want to boycott the settlers’ businesses, but I think you’re making a mistake insisting on separation between Arabs and Jews. In fact, imagine if someone was to brag that he came to Israel for a visit and made a point of not using any services by Arabs? he’s only go to Jewish-owned hotels and restaurants, for example. Wouldn’t you call that racism?

  • http://www.7iber.com/ ramsey

    You want to talk about boycott, look at South Africa. Sports teams were the raged in SA, and as soon as the sports teams from SA weren’t allowed to compete, the world knew that something was happening in South Africa.

    The argument for a boycott is tricky and your words must be deliberate and intentional. But calling a (non-violent) movement to free indigenous Palestinians from European Jewish colonialism, racism is a bit ironic. Israel is a Jewish state, where Palestinians are relegated to a level below the “darker Jews.” Racism in Israel is about as evident as the Sun.

    BDS is an important part of the non-violent resistance movement. South Africa is a great example.

    “The necessity of cultural boycott”
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10614.shtml

  • http://www.7iber.com ramsey

    You want to talk about boycott, look at South Africa. Sports teams were the raged in SA, and as soon as the sports teams from SA weren’t allowed to compete, the world knew that something was happening in South Africa.

    The argument for a boycott is tricky and your words must be deliberate and intentional. But calling a (non-violent) movement to free indigenous Palestinians from European Jewish colonialism, racism is a bit ironic. Israel is a Jewish state, where Palestinians are relegated to a level below the “darker Jews.” Racism in Israel is about as evident as the Sun.

    BDS is an important part of the non-violent resistance movement. South Africa is a great example.

    “The necessity of cultural boycott”
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10614.shtml

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com/ Ali Dahmash

    Actualy I do support boycotting the settlers products since they are the produce of stolen illegal Arab Land (in the West Bank), the EU is actualy boycotting the products of such settelments. But back to your point, Peace can bring prosperity to all sides, Israeli, Palestinian that’s why I support a One state!

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com Ali Dahmash

    Actualy I do support boycotting the settlers products since they are the produce of stolen illegal Arab Land (in the West Bank), the EU is actualy boycotting the products of such settelments. But back to your point, Peace can bring prosperity to all sides, Israeli, Palestinian that’s why I support a One state!

  • Nader S

    Thumbs up man… I will be thinking the same way too but thanks for enlightening others! Well, you know what they say: “People of ignorance will never be free”

    Best

  • Nader S

    Thumbs up man… I will be thinking the same way too but thanks for enlightening others! Well, you know what they say: “People of ignorance will never be free”

    Best

  • http://www.kinziblogs.wordpress.com/ kinzi

    I had always said I wouldn’t go until my Pali friends had the freedom I did to visit their own homeland. Now a Pali friend has said: “Go for me”, and we just might do that.

    I also agree with israelimom,in one sense. Separating groups will guarantee they never meet and build relationships. Maybe that is how moms think.

  • http://www.kinziblogs.wordpress.com kinzi

    I had always said I wouldn’t go until my Pali friends had the freedom I did to visit their own homeland. Now a Pali friend has said: “Go for me”, and we just might do that.

    I also agree with israelimom,in one sense. Separating groups will guarantee they never meet and build relationships. Maybe that is how moms think.

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  • http://deerate.com/ hamede

    an economic boycott of Israel and Israeli products until justice in the area on the part of Israel is achieved. No other methods in the past seem to fully motivate Israel to resolve the Palestinian issue in a just mannor so perhaps economic motivation will work.

  • http://deerate.com hamede

    an economic boycott of Israel and Israeli products until justice in the area on the part of Israel is achieved. No other methods in the past seem to fully motivate Israel to resolve the Palestinian issue in a just mannor so perhaps economic motivation will work.

  • Sam

    This is the most brilliant article I have read in an Arab publication (net) in years! I went to Palestine after an Egyptian American told me how grateful Palestinians in Jerusalem were when he told them that he came all the way from the States to pray at Al Aqsa mosque. The keeper’s of the mosque complained to this American Egyptian that Arab and Muslim boycott -till Palestine is some how liberated- is killing them financially and morally. I am glad to tell you Ali that this American Egyptian came back to the USA and has managed to send ten’s of people to Palestine. They buy things from markets that they will never need or use. They make sure they spend endlessly at Arabic stores and cafes and they stay at Palestinian hotels and tip generously.

    So I went. Did the same and to my amazement saw 55 British Pakistanis who came all the way from Britain via Amman to simply pray and spend money in Jerusalem to help Palestinians stay put. I asked them why and how did they ever think of this? The young British Pakistani woman looked at me and said: Its our duty to help. If we all don’t show up, then the Aqsa and the Palestinians will be gone from the city! How do you except them to survive if we do not support them in this way?

    How retarded are the calls by Arabs to boycott Palestinians. This way of thinking will lead to emptying the land from Palestinians! If such calls of boycott continue, soon Muslims will ask for an Israeli permit to pray inside the Haram!

  • Sam

    This is the most brilliant article I have read in an Arab publication (net) in years! I went to Palestine after an Egyptian American told me how grateful Palestinians in Jerusalem were when he told them that he came all the way from the States to pray at Al Aqsa mosque. The keeper’s of the mosque complained to this American Egyptian that Arab and Muslim boycott -till Palestine is some how liberated- is killing them financially and morally. I am glad to tell you Ali that this American Egyptian came back to the USA and has managed to send ten’s of people to Palestine. They buy things from markets that they will never need or use. They make sure they spend endlessly at Arabic stores and cafes and they stay at Palestinian hotels and tip generously.

    So I went. Did the same and to my amazement saw 55 British Pakistanis who came all the way from Britain via Amman to simply pray and spend money in Jerusalem to help Palestinians stay put. I asked them why and how did they ever think of this? The young British Pakistani woman looked at me and said: Its our duty to help. If we all don’t show up, then the Aqsa and the Palestinians will be gone from the city! How do you except them to survive if we do not support them in this way?

    How retarded are the calls by Arabs to boycott Palestinians. This way of thinking will lead to emptying the land from Palestinians! If such calls of boycott continue, soon Muslims will ask for an Israeli permit to pray inside the Haram!

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    i encourage you to boycott me.. please do.. i think its a great idea.. let me help you..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

    i love how you consider that this collective punishment should be deployed against me.. this is exactly what youve been doing for almost a century

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League_boycott_of_Israel

    way before we were a state – and well before the holocaust occurred..

    good luck champs ;)

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    i encourage you to boycott me.. please do.. i think its a great idea.. let me help you..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

    i love how you consider that this collective punishment should be deployed against me.. this is exactly what youve been doing for almost a century

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League_boycott_of_Israel

    way before we were a state – and well before the holocaust occurred..

    good luck champs ;)

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  • http://www.7iber.com/ ramsey

    Lirun -

    are you an israeli complaining of collective punishment? if it wasn’t so absurd it’d be hilarious.

    Have you heard of Gaza? Ramallah? The West Bank? Its called occupation and systematic collective punishment.

  • http://www.7iber.com ramsey

    Lirun -

    are you an israeli complaining of collective punishment? if it wasn’t so absurd it’d be hilarious.

    Have you heard of Gaza? Ramallah? The West Bank? Its called occupation and systematic collective punishment.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    no ramsey im not complaining.. im all for it.. it built us.. it made us work harder.. strive with more vigour.. it sharpened our dedication.. because we realised well before the state of israel was established that the jew was no friend of the region and that the entire region was happy to starve us..

    look where its taken us..

    god bless you..

    please dont give up now.. keep at it buddies.. i really to upgrade my car – i know you can make it happen..

    for those that were too lazy the first time – i encourage you to watch this video to assist you with the blessed cause..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    no ramsey im not complaining.. im all for it.. it built us.. it made us work harder.. strive with more vigour.. it sharpened our dedication.. because we realised well before the state of israel was established that the jew was no friend of the region and that the entire region was happy to starve us..

    look where its taken us..

    god bless you..

    please dont give up now.. keep at it buddies.. i really to upgrade my car – i know you can make it happen..

    for those that were too lazy the first time – i encourage you to watch this video to assist you with the blessed cause..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

  • http://deerate.com/ hamede

    lirun

    Israeli expansion policy is a twin sister of Nazi “Lebenraum” policy of creating what they called more living space for God’s chosen people. Using Hitler’s own words this policy was expressed by the Israeli President, Shimon Peres, stating: “We need more room to breathe”, of course on the expense of Palestinians. Zionism is Nazism incarnate.

    The Zionist leaders’ justification for allowing the Jewish holocaust to continue was that “The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations in order that the victorious allies agree to a Jewish state at the end of the war”I wonder what is the Arab leaders’ justification for allowing the Palestinian holocaust to continue.

  • http://deerate.com hamede

    lirun

    Israeli expansion policy is a twin sister of Nazi “Lebenraum” policy of creating what they called more living space for God’s chosen people. Using Hitler’s own words this policy was expressed by the Israeli President, Shimon Peres, stating: “We need more room to breathe”, of course on the expense of Palestinians. Zionism is Nazism incarnate.

    The Zionist leaders’ justification for allowing the Jewish holocaust to continue was that “The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations in order that the victorious allies agree to a Jewish state at the end of the war”I wonder what is the Arab leaders’ justification for allowing the Palestinian holocaust to continue.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    i think that is a really nasty and baseless assertion..

    i also think its a shame you cannot see beyond your own fears.. peace does not lie in such ideas.. it lies elsewhere – ur views are of the sort that fuel mutual suspicion and discourage dialogue..

    do not underestimate the power of your own words..
    ramadan kareem anyway

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    i think that is a really nasty and baseless assertion..

    i also think its a shame you cannot see beyond your own fears.. peace does not lie in such ideas.. it lies elsewhere – ur views are of the sort that fuel mutual suspicion and discourage dialogue..

    do not underestimate the power of your own words..
    ramadan kareem anyway

  • http://deerate.com/ hamede

    Reality bites.

  • http://deerate.com hamede

    Reality bites.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    hamede

    who is it biting ya a7i

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    hamede

    who is it biting ya a7i

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

  • Linda Burton

    Ali..I admire your ideas. Palestinians do need the support of all who can go there and help in any way.

  • Linda Burton

    Ali..I admire your ideas. Palestinians do need the support of all who can go there and help in any way.

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com/ Ali Dahmash

    I think this article has served its purpose, and that is: we need to communicate with the other side, we need to have an open dialogue. I know that we have different approaches & have very different politcial views but we all want one thing, Peace and ending the occupation. I salute Lirun,Sam & Hamade for their courage to speak out, we should try to understand what we all really want and how it can be achieved

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com Ali Dahmash

    I think this article has served its purpose, and that is: we need to communicate with the other side, we need to have an open dialogue. I know that we have different approaches & have very different politcial views but we all want one thing, Peace and ending the occupation. I salute Lirun,Sam & Hamade for their courage to speak out, we should try to understand what we all really want and how it can be achieved

  • http://bujassem.blogspot.com/ BuJ

    I like the idea of half full rather than half empty.

    By supporting Palestinians you are effectively boycotting Israel. Great blog ya 7iber :)

  • http://bujassem.blogspot.com BuJ

    I like the idea of half full rather than half empty.

    By supporting Palestinians you are effectively boycotting Israel. Great blog ya 7iber :)

  • http://bujassem.blogspot.com/ BuJ

    I like the idea of half full rather than half empty.

    By supporting Palestinians you are effectively boycotting Israel. Israel doesn’t matter really to me, it matters that every human gets what is just, be they Jewish, Muslim or Christian.

    Also for the record to any Zionists who have selective historical memories. In the last 1000 years Arab lands have been the lands in which you’re most welcome. We never evicted Jews like they did in England, Spain and other countries in Europe. We never burned or gassed Jews or any other humans of other faiths. However with the bloody occupation and the ensuing wars, the situation changed for the Jewish minorities in Arab lands, it changed for the worst.

    I pray for peace.

    Great blog ya 7iber.

  • http://bujassem.blogspot.com BuJ

    I like the idea of half full rather than half empty.

    By supporting Palestinians you are effectively boycotting Israel. Israel doesn’t matter really to me, it matters that every human gets what is just, be they Jewish, Muslim or Christian.

    Also for the record to any Zionists who have selective historical memories. In the last 1000 years Arab lands have been the lands in which you’re most welcome. We never evicted Jews like they did in England, Spain and other countries in Europe. We never burned or gassed Jews or any other humans of other faiths. However with the bloody occupation and the ensuing wars, the situation changed for the Jewish minorities in Arab lands, it changed for the worst.

    I pray for peace.

    Great blog ya 7iber.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    shukran ali

    i agree – we need to communicate – understand eachother – and build a better future based on peace and mutual respect.. living freely and with enjoy self determination..

    inshalla

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    shukran ali

    i agree – we need to communicate – understand eachother – and build a better future based on peace and mutual respect.. living freely and with enjoy self determination..

    inshalla

  • Avi Gilad

    Thank you Ali Dahmash. As an Israeli I think we need more people like you to make peace work.

  • Avi Gilad

    Thank you Ali Dahmash. As an Israeli I think we need more people like you to make peace work.

  • http://www.a-tale-of-three-beans.blogspot.com MommaBean

    Ali, thanks for the interesting article. I know that your visit to Palestine was meaningful. El 3atal and I also went and had a similar trip to yours. We stayed with family, spent money with Palestinians and had an amazing visit. We got to take video with one of Teta’s brothers who died within 2 months of our departure. What an opportunity. I agree that we need to do all we can to support our sisters and brothers across the border.

    While israelimom has a valid point, having to suffer through sharing Jordan’s beautiful archealogical sites with loud, rude Israelis who bring their own food and water to avoid spending any money in Jordan doesn’t encourage me to have any interest in their financial welfare…

    As an American, I pay far too much for the average Israeli’s lifestyle. As a Jordanian, I want peace that makes sense. As mother of three Palestinian children, I want protection of their heritage. By supporting Palestinians in Palestine, I believe all these perspectives are met.

  • http://www.a-tale-of-three-beans.blogspot.com/ MommaBean

    Ali, thanks for the interesting article. I know that your visit to Palestine was meaningful. El 3atal and I also went and had a similar trip to yours. We stayed with family, spent money with Palestinians and had an amazing visit. We got to take video with one of Teta’s brothers who died within 2 months of our departure. What an opportunity. I agree that we need to do all we can to support our sisters and brothers across the border.

    While israelimom has a valid point, having to suffer through sharing Jordan’s beautiful archealogical sites with loud, rude Israelis who bring their own food and water to avoid spending any money in Jordan doesn’t encourage me to have any interest in their financial welfare…

    As an American, I pay far too much for the average Israeli’s lifestyle. As a Jordanian, I want peace that makes sense. As mother of three Palestinian children, I want protection of their heritage. By supporting Palestinians in Palestine, I believe all these perspectives are met.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    Sorry Buj

    thats rubbish.. not only did “you” evict confiscate and persecute but you also did your best to close the doors of palestine which was one of the few places that jews could flee to while they were burning in europe..

    jews suffered under muslims rule all around the world..

    the fact the ashkenazi jews have managed to monopolise attention over their suffering doesnt derogate from the atrocities that were bestowed upon middle eastern jews..

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    Sorry Buj

    thats rubbish.. not only did “you” evict confiscate and persecute but you also did your best to close the doors of palestine which was one of the few places that jews could flee to while they were burning in europe..

    jews suffered under muslims rule all around the world..

    the fact the ashkenazi jews have managed to monopolise attention over their suffering doesnt derogate from the atrocities that were bestowed upon middle eastern jews..

  • James

    The utter intellectual dishonest with which this situation is being approached is nothing less than disgusting. Ali, you claim you wish to have an open dialogue and I hope that is in fact the case. But hearing the entire conflict cast as a case of the evil murdering Israelis against the blameless Palestinians (and surrounding Muslim lands) is as ridiculous and disturbing as listening to a redneck talk about how all ‘Muzzies’ stink and have sex with camels.

    The one state solution will not work, at least not in the near future, when generations of Palestinians have been raised watching childrens’ shows featuring melodramatic enactments of evil Jews murdering children accompanied by exhortations for the children to reclaim ‘Palestine’ through violence and suicide operations.

    Let’s see how interested in a dialogue you really are. What do you think about the following facts:
    – there are many Israeli Arabs (Muslim) serving in Israel’s Knesset who are outspoken against Israel’s government; how many Jews are there in the governments of Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc.? In fact, what is the penalty for changing your religion in many of these surrounding countries? What does this say about the societies involved?
    – Israel pulled out of Gaza, uprooting (in some cases violently) many settlers in the area and left behind many millions of dollars of (Jewish) donated greenhouses and machinery for the Palestinians to jumpstart their economy. What happened with those greenhouses?
    – Hamas has said officially many times that it will never recognize the state of Israel.
    – With the military might of Israel it has decimated the Palestinian population. Or it would have, had the popular trope that Israelis are murderous savages been true. Has the Palestinian population decreased?
    – Where does Hamas get the money to build so many rockets? This money comes from somewhere, after all.

    There are of course many other issues that expose the ridiculousness of this situation but I’m going to stop here as I’m certain that all of this will fall on deaf ears. Most readers will simply gloss over the entire commentary, mumble ‘Israeli apologist’ in their minds, and go back to thinking of all the ways they can fight – not for peace, but to heal their wounded pride.

    Despite that, I wish you all peace.

  • James

    The utter intellectual dishonest with which this situation is being approached is nothing less than disgusting. Ali, you claim you wish to have an open dialogue and I hope that is in fact the case. But hearing the entire conflict cast as a case of the evil murdering Israelis against the blameless Palestinians (and surrounding Muslim lands) is as ridiculous and disturbing as listening to a redneck talk about how all ‘Muzzies’ stink and have sex with camels.

    The one state solution will not work, at least not in the near future, when generations of Palestinians have been raised watching childrens’ shows featuring melodramatic enactments of evil Jews murdering children accompanied by exhortations for the children to reclaim ‘Palestine’ through violence and suicide operations.

    Let’s see how interested in a dialogue you really are. What do you think about the following facts:
    – there are many Israeli Arabs (Muslim) serving in Israel’s Knesset who are outspoken against Israel’s government; how many Jews are there in the governments of Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc.? In fact, what is the penalty for changing your religion in many of these surrounding countries? What does this say about the societies involved?
    – Israel pulled out of Gaza, uprooting (in some cases violently) many settlers in the area and left behind many millions of dollars of (Jewish) donated greenhouses and machinery for the Palestinians to jumpstart their economy. What happened with those greenhouses?
    – Hamas has said officially many times that it will never recognize the state of Israel.
    – With the military might of Israel it has decimated the Palestinian population. Or it would have, had the popular trope that Israelis are murderous savages been true. Has the Palestinian population decreased?
    – Where does Hamas get the money to build so many rockets? This money comes from somewhere, after all.

    There are of course many other issues that expose the ridiculousness of this situation but I’m going to stop here as I’m certain that all of this will fall on deaf ears. Most readers will simply gloss over the entire commentary, mumble ‘Israeli apologist’ in their minds, and go back to thinking of all the ways they can fight – not for peace, but to heal their wounded pride.

    Despite that, I wish you all peace.

  • andrew

    responding to James, point by point:
    -there are jews in the Iranian government, as well as Moroccan. But more importantly, the question should be–what is the percentage of Palestinians in the Israeli parliament compared to the percentage of the population they make up? If it really was proportional, Palestinians would make up the majority of the government.
    -cant use machinery without gas. Need supplies for greenhouses. While Im sure some are being used (do you have evidence they are not?), the blockade of supplies coming into Gaza renders any resources inefficient at best.
    -no one on this thread besides you defends, or even mentions Hamas. We are talking about people, not political parties.
    -in the US, the African American population hasnt decreased. Yet the men are disproportionally put in jail, the schools and neighborhoods are underresourced, and the police target black people. Result=impoverished and dysfunctional community. Sound familiar? You dont have to kill them all to ruin a people.
    -Again, Hamas. Sad that although this thread is about a NON-VIOLENT way of resisting and building economic sustainability, you chose to focus on an unmentioned group having nothing to do with this idea, as a way to disparage all the supporters of Palestinian self-determination in the discussion. If you really hate Hamas, it seems that this is the kind of effort you would WANT to see. So whats your POSITIVE solution, besides having the “entire conflict cast as a case of the evil (anti-semetic arabs) against the blameless (Jewish Israelis)”?–your own words turned around.

  • andrew

    responding to James, point by point:
    -there are jews in the Iranian government, as well as Moroccan. But more importantly, the question should be–what is the percentage of Palestinians in the Israeli parliament compared to the percentage of the population they make up? If it really was proportional, Palestinians would make up the majority of the government.
    -cant use machinery without gas. Need supplies for greenhouses. While Im sure some are being used (do you have evidence they are not?), the blockade of supplies coming into Gaza renders any resources inefficient at best.
    -no one on this thread besides you defends, or even mentions Hamas. We are talking about people, not political parties.
    -in the US, the African American population hasnt decreased. Yet the men are disproportionally put in jail, the schools and neighborhoods are underresourced, and the police target black people. Result=impoverished and dysfunctional community. Sound familiar? You dont have to kill them all to ruin a people.
    -Again, Hamas. Sad that although this thread is about a NON-VIOLENT way of resisting and building economic sustainability, you chose to focus on an unmentioned group having nothing to do with this idea, as a way to disparage all the supporters of Palestinian self-determination in the discussion. If you really hate Hamas, it seems that this is the kind of effort you would WANT to see. So whats your POSITIVE solution, besides having the “entire conflict cast as a case of the evil (anti-semetic arabs) against the blameless (Jewish Israelis)”?–your own words turned around.

  • Sam

    To James, you are missing a very important point: Occupation! Israel, illegally and immorally occupies Palestinian land. This is the issue here. Its great that at times the illegal occupier did a good thing or two, it however, does not legitimize the occupation.

    Also, do not pick on Ali and accuse him of things! Dialogue and talk like Lirun suggested.

  • Sam

    To James, you are missing a very important point: Occupation! Israel, illegally and immorally occupies Palestinian land. This is the issue here. Its great that at times the illegal occupier did a good thing or two, it however, does not legitimize the occupation.

    Also, do not pick on Ali and accuse him of things! Dialogue and talk like Lirun suggested.

  • http://mhdbadi.com/ Mohammad Badi Irshid

    Please remove my previous comment,Thanks

    “we were able to spend our money on them and providing support for their businesses and economy.”
    Dear Ali, this is really what we should think about and this is the main purpose of supporting Palestine by visiting our occupied lands.
    I am Palestinian and be sure I will not hesitate to support my country.
    Great post dear

  • http://mhdbadi.com Mohammad Badi Irshid

    Please remove my previous comment,Thanks

    “we were able to spend our money on them and providing support for their businesses and economy.”
    Dear Ali, this is really what we should think about and this is the main purpose of supporting Palestine by visiting our occupied lands.
    I am Palestinian and be sure I will not hesitate to support my country.
    Great post dear

  • shlomi

    hello to all,

    Ali- I’m glad you chose to visit our lovely country. i believe that only throught tourism and economic investments a true long lasting and honorable peace could rise in the entire middle-east and in particular the levant.

    boycotting israel will not help any of the palestinians national interests. it is a method that the arab and mouslim world have tried for decades and failed! nowaday Israel is a prosperous and rich society with overwelms the entire world with its amasing economical stabillity despite the global rising competion and israel’s very young age
    show me another country in the world with such amasingly fast developement rate- in 60 years we’ve built a modern, rich, hitech, european standart state out of absolute wasteland with no natural resources and no infrastructure.

    instead of looking at the past and winning about it constantly, let’s try to look at the future, try to develope an economic infrastructure for wellfaire, health and true life in the levant, which might not have any oil and natural resources but has a worm and loving people, both jews and arabs, that can live together in peace if only old and stupid disputes about land (who the hell needs it anyway???? are you planning on growing wheat and olives for a living? i’s just not economical any more! you’ll starve to death any be poor for the rest of your life!) will be put aside and new and initiative cooperations will bring progress and well-being to the region.

  • shlomi

    hello to all,

    Ali- I’m glad you chose to visit our lovely country. i believe that only throught tourism and economic investments a true long lasting and honorable peace could rise in the entire middle-east and in particular the levant.

    boycotting israel will not help any of the palestinians national interests. it is a method that the arab and mouslim world have tried for decades and failed! nowaday Israel is a prosperous and rich society with overwelms the entire world with its amasing economical stabillity despite the global rising competion and israel’s very young age
    show me another country in the world with such amasingly fast developement rate- in 60 years we’ve built a modern, rich, hitech, european standart state out of absolute wasteland with no natural resources and no infrastructure.

    instead of looking at the past and winning about it constantly, let’s try to look at the future, try to develope an economic infrastructure for wellfaire, health and true life in the levant, which might not have any oil and natural resources but has a worm and loving people, both jews and arabs, that can live together in peace if only old and stupid disputes about land (who the hell needs it anyway???? are you planning on growing wheat and olives for a living? i’s just not economical any more! you’ll starve to death any be poor for the rest of your life!) will be put aside and new and initiative cooperations will bring progress and well-being to the region.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    ok so shlomi decided to ignore your emotional ties to the past.. i dont know if i share his views.. in fact i dont..

    but there is something to be said about looking fwd – mind you its obviously easier to look fwd when the present is brighter (as it is for us)..

    but i think the point is that maintaining a focus on the dispute rather than the possibilities is an approach that hurts those suffering most from the dispute (whether due to their own actions/boycotts or due to the other side’s aggression).. its time to solve this rather than deepen it..

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    ok so shlomi decided to ignore your emotional ties to the past.. i dont know if i share his views.. in fact i dont..

    but there is something to be said about looking fwd – mind you its obviously easier to look fwd when the present is brighter (as it is for us)..

    but i think the point is that maintaining a focus on the dispute rather than the possibilities is an approach that hurts those suffering most from the dispute (whether due to their own actions/boycotts or due to the other side’s aggression).. its time to solve this rather than deepen it..

  • http://deerate.com/ hamede

    james.
    Israeli commentators and scholars, self-described “loyal” Zionists who served proudly in the army in wars past, are now publicly describing their country, in the words of Oxford University professor Avi Shlaim, as a “rogue” and gangster” state led by “completely unscrupulous leaders”.

    Neve Gordon, a politics professor at Ben Gurion University, has declared that Israel’s actions in Gaza are like “raising animals for slaughter on a farm” and represent a “bizarre new moral element” in warfare.

    “The moral voice of restraint has been left behind … Everything is permitted” against Palestinians, writes a disgusted Haaretz columnist, Gideon Levy.

    Fellow Haaretz columnist and daughter of Holocaust survivors, Amira Haas writes of her late parents disgust at how Israeli leaders justified Israel’s wars with a “language laundromat” aimed at redefining reality and Israel’s moral compass. “Lucky my parents aren’t alive to see this,” she exclaimed.

    Around the world people are beginning to compare Israel’s attack on Gaza, which after the 2005 withdrawal of Israeli forces and settlers was turned literally into the world’s largest prison, to the Jewish uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto.

  • http://deerate.com hamede

    james.
    Israeli commentators and scholars, self-described “loyal” Zionists who served proudly in the army in wars past, are now publicly describing their country, in the words of Oxford University professor Avi Shlaim, as a “rogue” and gangster” state led by “completely unscrupulous leaders”.

    Neve Gordon, a politics professor at Ben Gurion University, has declared that Israel’s actions in Gaza are like “raising animals for slaughter on a farm” and represent a “bizarre new moral element” in warfare.

    “The moral voice of restraint has been left behind … Everything is permitted” against Palestinians, writes a disgusted Haaretz columnist, Gideon Levy.

    Fellow Haaretz columnist and daughter of Holocaust survivors, Amira Haas writes of her late parents disgust at how Israeli leaders justified Israel’s wars with a “language laundromat” aimed at redefining reality and Israel’s moral compass. “Lucky my parents aren’t alive to see this,” she exclaimed.

    Around the world people are beginning to compare Israel’s attack on Gaza, which after the 2005 withdrawal of Israeli forces and settlers was turned literally into the world’s largest prison, to the Jewish uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto.

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com/ Ali Dahmash

    Thanks all for your contributions. We can argue here for years on what has been done by whom and who did the right and wrong thing. But what I know for a fact is that there is alot of suffering in the Holliest palce. And what I know as well that Israelis will not be able to get rid of the Palestinians and vice versa and that people are duying and suffering for the past 61 years. What we need to do is how to get rid of this hatrate and live a normal life wither it was a two state, one state solution or whatever!

  • http://www.undermyolivetree.com Ali Dahmash

    Thanks all for your contributions. We can argue here for years on what has been done by whom and who did the right and wrong thing. But what I know for a fact is that there is alot of suffering in the Holliest palce. And what I know as well that Israelis will not be able to get rid of the Palestinians and vice versa and that people are duying and suffering for the past 61 years. What we need to do is how to get rid of this hatrate and live a normal life wither it was a two state, one state solution or whatever!

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    amen

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    amen

  • shlomi

    Ali well spoken indeed!

    Hamede please bare in your mind- those things were said in Israel on an Israeli newspaper and in an Israeli universities by Israeli people…i’m waiting to hear something that reminds those saying in Ramalla, Gaza, Aman, Cairo, Damescus etc… you can call me a fool but if a man dares to say something like that in those places and other at that instant he shall be deheaded his body shall be dispayed on the highest tree right in the middle of the city market and his blood would decorate city hall.

    I served in the Israeli army and I’m proud of it! I am proud to serve the most human and moral army ever existed on earth. one cannot imagine how hurrible can war be and how murderous can an army be yet instead of mass killing such as in Sudan, Iran, Lebanon (and Ali- even jordan- do you remmember black september?) there is an unbelievable effort to evoid hurting the population- frankly and speaking on my own opinion these efforts are way exagurated and can be extremely costy it would have be much easier and cheaper to exile an entire village then to try over and over to locate and specifically assasinate a terrorist in that village.

  • shlomi

    Ali well spoken indeed!

    Hamede please bare in your mind- those things were said in Israel on an Israeli newspaper and in an Israeli universities by Israeli people…i’m waiting to hear something that reminds those saying in Ramalla, Gaza, Aman, Cairo, Damescus etc… you can call me a fool but if a man dares to say something like that in those places and other at that instant he shall be deheaded his body shall be dispayed on the highest tree right in the middle of the city market and his blood would decorate city hall.

    I served in the Israeli army and I’m proud of it! I am proud to serve the most human and moral army ever existed on earth. one cannot imagine how hurrible can war be and how murderous can an army be yet instead of mass killing such as in Sudan, Iran, Lebanon (and Ali- even jordan- do you remmember black september?) there is an unbelievable effort to evoid hurting the population- frankly and speaking on my own opinion these efforts are way exagurated and can be extremely costy it would have be much easier and cheaper to exile an entire village then to try over and over to locate and specifically assasinate a terrorist in that village.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Ali for this article!

    How easy is it thought to get a visa through this travel agent, and which foreign nationalities are easier to process?

  • http://blog.jarofjuice.com KJ

    Thanks Ali for this article!

    How easy is it thought to get a visa through this travel agent, and which foreign nationalities are easier to process?

  • Sam

    Some good news :) Thanks to your amazing article that i circulated in the USA, am pleased to tell you that a group of visitors is being put together to go visit Palestinian places in occupied Jerusalem. This group is made up of Americans who have zero roots to the Arab or moslem world. They are leaving from DC.

  • Sam

    Some good news :) Thanks to your amazing article that i circulated in the USA, am pleased to tell you that a group of visitors is being put together to go visit Palestinian places in occupied Jerusalem. This group is made up of Americans who have zero roots to the Arab or moslem world. They are leaving from DC.

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com/ lirun

    hi sam

    tell them to come visit me in telaviv too..

  • http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com lirun

    hi sam

    tell them to come visit me in telaviv too..

  • Reem

    Ali great article and point of view….
    However, we are done with the “lets dialogue and converse” approach…there is really nothing to converse about when we get the facts straight: Israel is an occupying monstrous machine; once this political reality change we can then work around cultural coexistence and conversations. Dialogue is the last thing on the mind a young Palestinian who witnessed family members murdered or house bulldozed! Meanwhile, what concerned Israelis can do is raise their protesting voices to their governments and create lobbying groups to change such reality.

    Shlomi, you exhibit a perfect example of a brainwashed misinformed soldier in the IDF army… it makes since that you didn’t get the chance to hear and see protests not only in the arab but in every city around the world against Israel atrocities in Gaza…maybe its because you were too busy murdering with the IDF…but since your free handed nowadays, you may want to revisit the global and Arab reactions:
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=6572646
    or the suppressive reaction of your government against Israelis who protested the war!
    http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=29734

    Aside from the pictures and numbers (1400 at least dead) online that speak for themselves, your own troops couldn’t handle the army immorality and decided to speak out: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/07/2009714231352873494.html, You must be really underpaid from the Israeli government as an online PR agent to come back with such old dull responses that does not hold still to most of the world!

  • Reem

    Ali great article and point of view….
    However, we are done with the “lets dialogue and converse” approach…there is really nothing to converse about when we get the facts straight: Israel is an occupying monstrous machine; once this political reality change we can then work around cultural coexistence and conversations. Dialogue is the last thing on the mind a young Palestinian who witnessed family members murdered or house bulldozed! Meanwhile, what concerned Israelis can do is raise their protesting voices to their governments and create lobbying groups to change such reality.

    Shlomi, you exhibit a perfect example of a brainwashed misinformed soldier in the IDF army… it makes since that you didn’t get the chance to hear and see protests not only in the arab but in every city around the world against Israel atrocities in Gaza…maybe its because you were too busy murdering with the IDF…but since your free handed nowadays, you may want to revisit the global and Arab reactions:
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=6572646
    or the suppressive reaction of your government against Israelis who protested the war!
    http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=29734

    Aside from the pictures and numbers (1400 at least dead) online that speak for themselves, your own troops couldn’t handle the army immorality and decided to speak out: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/07/2009714231352873494.html, You must be really underpaid from the Israeli government as an online PR agent to come back with such old dull responses that does not hold still to most of the world!

  • Sam

    Lirun, they will be FORCED to visit Israel as it occupies the streets the visitors will drive on to reach Palestinian areas.

    Reem, so what are you going to do? What is your plan of action? Do you have ideas?

  • Sam

    Lirun, they will be FORCED to visit Israel as it occupies the streets the visitors will drive on to reach Palestinian areas.

    Reem, so what are you going to do? What is your plan of action? Do you have ideas?

  • http://7akifadi.com/ 7aki Fadi

    Ali,
    Thanks for this great post. With all the politics that goes around people sometimes forget about the people who need help the most. Who despite all the difficulties are trying to make a living.

    I will try my best to visit Palestine next time I am in the area.

    Thanks again

  • http://7akifadi.com 7aki Fadi

    Ali,
    Thanks for this great post. With all the politics that goes around people sometimes forget about the people who need help the most. Who despite all the difficulties are trying to make a living.

    I will try my best to visit Palestine next time I am in the area.

    Thanks again

  • Jihad Razi

    Thank you Ali for bringing this up! Ali, I agree with you and I think that all of us- at least the ones who can- should go and visit Palestine cause by this we wont forget… we should create a bond between arabs and Palestine again. Between immigrants and Palestine… people are forgetting and I think these visits will refresh their memoires a little bit. Believe me when people they will see what Israel is doing with their brothers, holly places and home land. I cant tell you how you will feel when you see that big wall or when you see settlements on top of the mountains… its really hurtful.

    I think Boycotting Israel is the most effective way to show objection. But we should stick to it more… I know that the results might take time but always remember that it took Israel to become what it is “A country” from 1897 until 1948.

    Shlomi- Thank your army for their mercy in Gaza

    James: I like the way you put horrible things in nice ways to make it look better. What it means if Israel offers couple of thousands USD – as greenhouses machinary, etc in Gaza.. and then destroys and burns billions of dollars.. does that make it a doner? If Hamas says Israel is a country, then for 70% of Gaza population who are immigrants from 1948 lands there is nothing called Palestine and they are not Palestinians and they were “occupying” your country. I hope you are not talking about 1967 lands too.. you will earase palastine from the map then!

  • Jihad Razi

    Thank you Ali for bringing this up! Ali, I agree with you and I think that all of us- at least the ones who can- should go and visit Palestine cause by this we wont forget… we should create a bond between arabs and Palestine again. Between immigrants and Palestine… people are forgetting and I think these visits will refresh their memoires a little bit. Believe me when people they will see what Israel is doing with their brothers, holly places and home land. I cant tell you how you will feel when you see that big wall or when you see settlements on top of the mountains… its really hurtful.

    I think Boycotting Israel is the most effective way to show objection. But we should stick to it more… I know that the results might take time but always remember that it took Israel to become what it is “A country” from 1897 until 1948.

    Shlomi- Thank your army for their mercy in Gaza

    James: I like the way you put horrible things in nice ways to make it look better. What it means if Israel offers couple of thousands USD – as greenhouses machinary, etc in Gaza.. and then destroys and burns billions of dollars.. does that make it a doner? If Hamas says Israel is a country, then for 70% of Gaza population who are immigrants from 1948 lands there is nothing called Palestine and they are not Palestinians and they were “occupying” your country. I hope you are not talking about 1967 lands too.. you will earase palastine from the map then!

  • Safa

    Totally agree with you, wish I could do it one day, Sadly I have gone to west bank many times, and never get the chance to visit the holy city!!

  • Safa

    Totally agree with you, wish I could do it one day, Sadly I have gone to west bank many times, and never get the chance to visit the holy city!!

  • Orah from the Zionist Entity

    Hi Ramsey,
    I'm not sure what you mean about Palestinians being relegated to a level below the “darker Jews.” You seem to be implying that Jews of Middle Eastern descent are second-class citizens. I'm a Jew of Eastern European descent but I'm married to a dark-skinned Jew of Libyan descent and I haven't noticed any racism. I think maybe during the fifties and sixties there are an undertone of racism against Jews like my husband (although never to the extent that you seem to be implying), but I don't think it's the case anymore.

    BTW, your average Israeli-Arab enjoys more rights than you do. Can you openly criticize your government? Israeli-Arabs can. Just this evening I was in a shopping center in Carmiel and the salewoman was wearing a keffiyah. Amazing to think that the evil imperialist European colonialist state of Israel respects her right to freedom of expression. Another question: Do Jordanian women have legal resources available to them if their husbands beat them? Are honor killings processed to the full extent of the law in Jordon? Arab women in Israel are a heck of a lot freeer in Israel than in ANY Arab country. No other country offers Arab women the freedom, opportunities, and protection that Israel does.

  • Orah from the Zionist Entity

    Hi Ramsey,
    I'm not sure what you mean about Palestinians being relegated to a level below the “darker Jews.” You seem to be implying that Jews of Middle Eastern descent are second-class citizens. I'm a Jew of Eastern European descent but I'm married to a dark-skinned Jew of Libyan descent and I haven't noticed any racism. I think maybe during the fifties and sixties there are an undertone of racism against Jews like my husband (although never to the extent that you seem to be implying), but I don't think it's the case anymore.

    BTW, your average Israeli-Arab enjoys more rights than you do. Can you openly criticize your government? Israeli-Arabs can. Just this evening I was in a shopping center in Carmiel and the salewoman was wearing a keffiyah. Amazing to think that the evil imperialist European colonialist state of Israel respects her right to freedom of expression. Another question: Do Jordanian women have legal resources available to them if their husbands beat them? Are honor killings processed to the full extent of the law in Jordon? Arab women in Israel are a heck of a lot freeer in Israel than in ANY Arab country. No other country offers Arab women the freedom, opportunities, and protection that Israel does.

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